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trans-2-phenyl-1-bromocyclopentane +alc. KOH ----------> ????
    

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double bond wud be formed in conjugation with the bezene as that would be the most stable product......
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any more answers??
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yes.. i wud say that the answer is just the opposite.. that is the product in conjugation with benzene ring wont be formed here...i guess answer must be 1-phenylcyclopent-4-ene ....this is because though if double bond in conjugation with bezene wud be more stable product, but for elimination with KOH, u need a hydrogen in trans position.. but phenyl grp is occupying the trans position on one side, but on other side, there is trans hydrogen.. hence, i said that 1-phenylcyclopent-4-ene wud be formed...( plz ignore IUPAC name error if present)
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i agree with vighnesh............but still any other answers????

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hey i too think viggi is right.
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1phenylcyclopentene will b formed

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3-phenylcyclopentene

It is based on E2 Mechanism

The general form of the E2 mechanism is as follows:

General form of the E2  mechanism

B: = base
X = leaving group (usually halide or tosylate)

In the E2 mechanism, a base abstracts a proton neighboring the leaving group, forcing the electrons down to make a double bond, and, in so doing, forcing off the leaving group. When numerous things happen simultaneously in a mechanism, such as the E2 reaction, it is called a concerted step.

if u can understand ok otherwise i will write the reaction


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The given compound we may regard as a secondary halide, and many sec and tert halides undergo elimination by E1 mechanism. Formation of carbocation is the r.d.s.Thus in this case the proton attached to carbon having phenyl goup is likely to be eliminated, forming a tertiary carbocation, more stable than the other possibility a secondary.This would then eliminate the bromide ion to form 1-Phenylcyclopentene.

It has been observed that the dehydrohalogenation of substituted cycloalkyl halides follows the Saytzeff's rule; thus supporting formation of 1-phenylcyclopentene.

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I think it should be 3-phenylcyclopentene via E2

this question was in AIEEE 2006 QNO. 132

 

http://www.fiitjee.com/down/sol/achemistry06.pdf


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@rtrikha sir, plz clarify ur answer. Also , check vighnesh's answer . i think he is right , however the possibility shown by madhusudan sir cannot also be ruled out. E1 may also occur.I m a bit confused. plz clarify this doubt d=stating whether E1 or E2 will be dominating............ i will be thankful.
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hey anyone clarify my doubt......
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